If I cared, I could've predicted you would increase the aggression, and, as I mentioned in my comment that you reposted, you accuse flat-Earthers of being militant, yet you beat them by a longshot. That's intentional, by your own admission, to stir the pot and generate more interest, readers, and subscribers.
You cleverly write about lower-consciousness subjects to generate reactions, and it works. No judgment on that, and it's obvious that I'm also weighing in on the popular controversy and contributing to your Substack. But my writing is not that style. My Substack will never be as popular as yours, and I don't care. Mine is for those wanting to reach higher consciousness, which is foreign to you. You conservatively follow "alternative" groupthink and consensus. However, thank you for helping to kickstart my Substack.
I'm for finding the truth, no matter what kind of condemnation I get from the mainstream science-conditioned masses. You accuse flat-Earthers of being subjected to psyops/mind-control, yet you clearly show you are as well. Lifelong conditioning and CIA psyops are the same thing. One is long-term and the other is one of many special applications run by subordinate groups, but the methods and goal are the same.
Are you familiar with the current, hidden, and great impact of the British Royal Society? It was a large and far-reaching "psyops" run by famous occult masters to promote scientism. It was, of course, secretly endorsed by the High Priests of the continuing Roman Empire.
You say you're a truther, but you easily fall for the most obvious deception. That's why I say you're a semi-truther or pseudo-conspiracist. All of them are addicted to fear and most are going nowhere. Are you beLIEf-bound (programmed) to evolution theory? If so, that's another "psyops" you're sucked into. But I encourage you to stay that way. My guess is you can't wake up, and you'll give SPs as much trouble as you can (energy extraction used to run this Game) if you happen to encounter any of us. You see, your toxic follow-up diatribe is directed at me only, unless there are other awake or unawake SPs reading your Substack. The majority non-SPs don't perceive anything. They're part of the presentation.
I know a lot more than you about the Darwin family and the con-jobs of their superiors. How do I know that I know more than you? Your writing advertises this. Do you know the Freemasonic metaphor the Elite push regarding evolution theory? Do you know the hidden meaning of the word, "con?" Do you know the Lunar Society and what Charles' grandfather Erasmus Darwin wrote? Some truther you are. Do you know what Charles Darwin himself said about the durability of his theory, how it will surely later be proven or disproven? And by what criteria or evidence did he mean?
You could say I specialize in evolution theory. I'm far better at refuting it than the most famous religious scholars are. And vice-versa, I'm better at debunking religions (god-creation) than well-known atheists. Popular debates between, say, Christopher Hitchens and John Lennox or Dinesh D'Souza are superficial. But what do you expect from the mass media? And New Age beLIEfs? I salivate at the thought of tearing into them.
Your own cherished conspiracies are part of the Cabal's and Matrix's psyops, so you're an unwitting patsy. Evidence of your ignorance and conditioned mind is not having the slightest idea and refusing to even briefly consider what I plainly and repeatedly explained in comments under your previous article, the one that triggered so many reactions.
When I say, "I'm for finding the truth," I mean the ultimate truth (the highest awareness and consciousness type), but my own, as an advancing Source Player. This experience is only what I found it to be, because it's illusionary and I'm playing it alone. I already explained several of these critical concepts of this illusionary Matrix Game in previous comments.
Other SPs are challenged in the same way. This is all very strange to you, I know. And you're right to quickly dismiss it. It doesn't apply to you, and you can't participate in it. I explained as clearly as I can. It took me many years and a lot of work to understand and put the conceptual pieces of the puzzle together. Yet, it's elegantly simple and super-rewarding.
You remarked, "...whatever that means," so you must be totally lost with this. Your role dictates this. Your programming makes you reject it. Unawake SPs' scripts and conditioning make them reject it too, hopefully only temporarily, so there could be a few of them in your like-minded group as well as in the other group, flat Earth. But these are generally fictional groups filled with fictional "humans," and SPs are the only ones perceiving, having a consciousness, and playing this Game.
TLDR … and you’re welcome for the exposure. We’re all in this together.… Just want to quote your genius consciousness blah blah blah: “The Earth is neither round nor flat”
For those who actually believe you can sit on the fence about the shape of the Earth. Next we will be debating about whether there is oxygen or not.
FLAT EARTH PSY OP AND THE PLAGUE OF UNEDUCATED SHEEPTARDS THAT FOLLOW IT
For over 20 years now since the CIA first released the Flat Earth Psyop as an experiment to see just how absurd and idiotic the information they put out into the public domain could get and still have people believing it, the number of gullible minds being sucked into the Psyop has been growing by leaps and bounds. The CIA needed internet "Influencers" to spread the Psyop, and they gained those with Flat Earth gurus like Eric Dubay, Flat Earth Dave, and a number of others. At first, it was just individuals joining the Flat Earth Cult, but now a shift is taking place---Right Wing channel owners have begun pushing the Psyop to their large audiences. Who are those Right Wing channel owners? The channels pushing the Flat Earth Psyop--thereby greatly HELPING the Deep State to degrade human minds and dumb them downeven more-- are ALL owned by Fundamentalists. THE CUNNING PSYCHOLOGICAL PLOY THEY USE ON THE GULLIBLE MINDS Fundamentalists already say they believe everything in the Bible, so when any speaker mentions the Bible, or God, or Jesus, it DISARMS the mind of the Fundamentalists right off the bat. They are thereafter MORE likely to believe whatever the speaker then preaches, because they believe he is credible, as a Christian man. This is a very cunning ploy, and has been used by many unscrupulous grifters and channel owners to sell products to their Fundamentalist audiences. The religious listener thinks, "Well, they are Christians, so they must be honest." WRONG!!! Don't be fooled. They use that ploy to take advantage of you and line their own pockets. FACELESS SEAN OF THE SGT REPORT The Fundamentalist channel owner with the largest following in Truther World these days is likely Faceless Sean of the SGT Report. He pumps out show after show after show, typically advertising products or people he promotes (and likely receives commissions from) and now he is promoting several people that preach Flat Earth Dogma. PSYCHOLOGICAL TRICKS TO CONTROL FUNDAMENTALIST MINDS Faceless Sean recently featured a guest named "Crow" (also faceless), who claimed that the Sun is only 32 miles in diameter and only a little over 3,000 miles from Earth, which he insists is flat. That's interesting, because we have seen many posts by Flat Earth devotees who have been saying the Sun is only "about 30 miles up." So now this Crow is saying it is some 3300 miles up. Remember they still have to fit the Sun, Moon, and all the stars and planets INSIDE their Dome of the Firmament. So, how do they get gullible Fundamentalists who know virtually nothing of real science, to believe their lies? They use Hitler's favorite method. Hitler is famous for saying that if you tell a lie big enough and repeat it often enough people will believe it. That is exactly what the Flat Earth gurus do, and now that includes Faceless Sean of the SGT Report. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SINCERE BUT GULLIBLE MINDS Everyone knows that Fundamentalists are the easiest people in the Western World to fool. As long as you convince them something is in the Bible (whether it really is or not) they will believe it. They will not only believe it, but then spread it and expect everyone else to believe it. FLAT EARTH IS NOW A RELIGIOUS DOGMA TO MANY It has progressed to the point, that now, Flat Earth has become an actual religious dogma in the minds of many Fundamentalists. And, clever propagandists like Faceless Sean are trying to spread it as widely as they can. COGNITIVE DISSONANCE RULES THEIR MINDS Despite the fact that science experts have debated Flat Earthers and been able to totally debunk their silly assertions, the Flat Earth Cult devotees absolutely refuse to admit they have been debunked, and due to cognitive dissonance, continue believing the lies of Flat Earth. LYING DUSTIN NEMOS DEBATES A SCIENCE EXPERT ON FLAT EARTH On a recent show on Nino's Corner, Nino Rodriguez hosted a science expert and Dustin Nemos, a Flat Earth Fundamentalist. The science expert totally debunked EVERY supposed proof of Flat Earth Nemos could throw out, making Nemos look like a total fool, yet because Nemos talked Bible in a religious tone, he likely disarmed the minds of most of Nino's audience, and they still believed Nemos' lies instead of hard science that easily debunked them. THE END RESULT OF ALL THIS IS NOT GOOD The effect all this is having is that already muddled minds are being muddled even further by the idiocy of Flat Earth, now being pushed by major Right Wing channel owners. Who are these people really working for?
If your own mind has been smashed into oblivion by the Flat Earth Psyop and you've lost all ability to think and reason logically and rationally your programming is complete
FE minions who are you following ? Cross dressing pedo FE Guru E . Dubay ?
Faceless Sean on SGT ?
Faceless Sean ignored Operation Warpspeed and Donald J. Trumps complicity in the D.O.D. rollout of the DARPA graphene oxide self assembling nanotech injections forced under the false name of 'vaccine'. Faceless Sean has ignored the glaring anomalies and ridiculous theatrics of the FAKE shooting of Trump on July 13th, insisting that GOD saved Trump from a fatal shot my millimeters and a split second, rather than a WWE level staged performance with fake blood and theatrics that defied any and all potential realities. Regardless of it all, Sean of SGT pumps Golden Don as his savior.
And the retarded follow these obvious con man cia Psy op peddlers whose only role is humiliating the masses with their obvious govt antics while milking you for $ 🐑💩
Yes, I'm thankful for the exposure. A little more of this and I might be able to write a Part 3 on my Substack. Then after that, I already have a deeper explanation of the illusionary Matrix Game ready to post.
We're not all in this together.
Snarky reply. You're playing your part well. True, I'm way above your level of understanding, but I wouldn't call it "genius" in the conventional sense. The mind is not the brain, and consciousness cannot be measured by worldly methods. We both know that you can only resort to cheap shots and can't engage in an intelligent discussion.
You want me to pick a side in a low-consciousness and useless debate on two illogical lies? Do you not understand simulation hypothesis at all? If you had any inkling, you would know that I'm not undecided or in between the two sides, which is what "sitting on the fence" means. I thoroughly explained my position versus flat Earth and spherical Earth.
Check out this post on my Substack: "Part 1: These Articles and Videos Could Help You Deal with the Current Accelerating Troubles and Get You Started on Consciousness-Raising." Choose 2. It's an excellent video on how the program is mind-controlling you and how you can break free from it. If you can't relate to it and feel there's nothing to break free of, then you're probably an NPC. In that case, just carry on as usual.
When you resort to cheap shots and negativity, you ruin your brand. You may not see it that way, since you've generated a lot of discussion from your last two articles (short-term gains). I'm not a marketing expert, I don't care about the public, and my writing automatically alienates some people, especially the beLIEf-bound. You will probably reply that you've been doing this a long time and you know what works. Fine. But I wouldn't resort to trash-writing and intentionally alienating groups of people. I had to soften my approach in a few places in my two upcoming books on advice from my Russian publisher. She's so smart, talented, and professional. And I sure as hell need the guidance.
My assessment and warning might be off for another reason--the prevailing current state of instant, anonymous, and negative online communication. You must be a younger person who's in-tune with that style.
There's also the degradation of insightful communication and intellectual thought on your Substack. These could be detrimental in the long run. I for sure couldn't justify being one of your paid subscribers. Or maybe I'm wrong and you could see a surge of subscribers. However, I wouldn't want to attract those kinds of commenters and discussions. Far be it for me to moralize though. I reject morals and duality like good-bad and right-wrong.
It seems our back-and-forth is finished, and on a good note. I consider it a compliment to be called crazy or "cuckoo." When a group-, consensus-, and system-follower calls me crazy, I can more easily identify what they're about and it helps to cut through any maneuvering or trickiness. It's further evidence that I'm on the right track. The sooner they call me that, the better, so that I don't waste my time.
Toward the end of my first book of my upcoming two-book set, I have a transcription of a long dialog I had with a Canadian conspiracy site editor. You might like to see that. The books should be out in 1-1/2 to 2 months on Amazon and other outlets. They'll be available in e-book (Kindle), paperback, and hardback. They are large--more than 1,700 pages total if they were in standard trim size and more than 500 pages each in 8.5" x 11" trim size. The Kindle version will be by far the cheapest option, since I think I'll be going with the expensive color illustrations in the paperback and hardback editions.
Please, if you can answer my question: do you accept Einstein's theory of relativity? I see you mention Darwin, and well, Einstein's "genius" is not very far from Darwin's.... Also, I must note that here, too, there are people like you: conscious, awakened and main experts who know everything, while we material and poor peasants remain at a lower level of consciousness. Forgive me, I am from the small country of Croatia, it doesn't matter that our ancestors are the oldest inhabitants of this part of the world, but what can you do - a peasant remains a peasant.
I will just ask for the thousandth time: one material, concrete proof of what you claim - just one, please (it would be great if the proof was related to a flat Earth, and not some other thing).
"Secret agent" 009 is great to me and I learned a lot from him. Maybe read his life, he took the trouble to show us his life here and what he bases his position on - and for all that, I appreciate him even more. I don't see why you're arguing without arguments...because, I know that you all, the awakened ones, are very good at using words.
You won't like this reply. I don't comply with lower-consciousness and asleep human requests. I have none of the motives you say I do. I don't speak for or side with flat-Earthers. You're twisting my meaning and trying to drag me down to your level, whether you realize it or not. But that's what you're supposed to do, challenge me.
It's almost like you're saying, "How dare you challenge the geniuses of science and their noble principles." Darwin and his family were sneaky secret society member NPCs (not real) running a con-job. I have 1-1/2 chapters of evolution theory analysis in my second book. History, civilization, the collective/humanity, and "ancestors" are illusionary. Are you a "conspiracy-lite" like 009?
Me and my practice are outside of physical, scientific, and civilization references and considerations. I don't put credence in locations, history, and famous NPCs. They're all deceptive illusions to me. You might be part of those presentations to Source Players (SPs).
Regarding "arguing without arguments," almost everyone on both sides of this issue (you're all the same to me, with a few exceptions) wants discussion confined to familiar mental territory to avoid cognitive dissonance. What I present is unsettling and erodes what little control you subconsciously thought you had. But you don't seem to love this control as much as others like 009.
Almost all of you on both sides want the discussion to stay within the confines of the mass-conditioning/"psyops." You won't and can't follow what I explain anyway. If you truly, open-mindedly want "proof" and want to understand, then study my material and the others I recommend. I have six favorite researchers who can get you started.
If you think I'm just "good at using words" and not supplying one shred of proof, then you're hopeless and not an SP. I've shared more than enough in my lengthy comments after 009's two articles on this subject. Enough to get unawake SPs started on the journey that they're "here" for.
Why should I play yours, 009's, and the other sheeples' game by supplying "concrete proof" when this experience is not concrete, all education and authoritative/official information are deceptive, and the Matrix can present illusionary "evidence" to trick both sides? I find it funny that those who call themselves truthers completely miss these critical concepts. Like the public, they play their roles and can't break out of their slightly different conditioning. They have no solutions to the accelerating chaos, control, and trouble. It's okay that they "stay in their lane" and never understand what this experience is about, because it's not for them. But it's tragic that unawake SPs never break out of self-deception.
I don't think you can do anything useful with the information, but if you're bored and have nothing to do, check out my Substack for more shocking information that turns everything upside-down. Viktorlhde.substack.com.
My two upcoming books will be released as a series called "Source Truth." They each have their own subtitles, and they are "Part I: This Illusionary Matrix Game and Challenging Beliefs" and "Part II: New World Order, Plandemic, and Cabal." The conspiracies I deal with in "Part II" are from a highly awareness- and consciousness-raised perspective.
Eric Dubay is the man "The World Is Not Enough" claims is a CIA agent (with no proof). Many other very intelligent people are questioning the globe model which is nothing new.
Intelligence is a factor, but it's more important who's questioning. And when I say "questioning," I mean either way, flat or spherical. Your idea of those "questioning" are the ones "wrongly" going against mainstream conditioning. Why attack those going against mass-brainwashing? Is it your program to keep them in-line with the herd? Are you a bird who lived all your life in a cage and think flying is crazy? Unawake SPs who at first believe in flat Earth could be starting their journey. It's laughable that you bad-mouth their efforts. But it's not out of the ordinary. Non-SPs are supposed to do all they can to create doubt in SPs' minds and extract our energy
Do you think you're able to question your lifelong conditioning or deprogram from all the lies you were told since you were born? Why do you care what others think? Awareness and consciousness raising are worked on internally. It's not a group project and others' thinking and questioning are none of your business.
There may be some intelligent and unawake ones using this issue to possibly wake up. They usually start out siding with flat Earth because, like conspiracies, it's an alternative direction. They seek unconventional concepts like certain philosophies, sovereign citizen, alternative medicine, conspiracies, esoterica, New Age, and possibly simulation hypothesis. They don't go over the deep end on them though. They don't seek these out just because these pursuits are cool and make the seekers look progressive or counterculture. They're genuinely curious and want to wake up.
NPCs usually stick with conventional conspiracies unless they're playing the role of a rebel doing whatever it takes to fight the system and having no care what the consequences are. Why would they care? They're not real.
Omg Viktor the earth is a sphere get over it …. There’s nothing radical, revolutionary or philosophical about debating over the shape of the Earth. It’s just plain retarded nonsense.
Your right, there's no sense debating over the shape of the Earth, so why do you debate it? You forcefully push the position opposite the other side, which is debating. I don't debate it because it has no shape or physicality.
You want me to lower myself to your stuck and conditioned position? I'm for progressing, not regressing. Did you understand anything I wrote, or are you just reflexively sticking to your guns? It's so typical, and I've seen it thousands of times. Can you open your mind? I don't think so. But that's ok. You're doing your job. By your own admission, you don't know what I'm talking about.
I understand your skepticism or unwillingness to consider for even a minute what I say. Explanations of my practice and who I am are strange and they stand all conventions on their heads. As I said in different words before, I want you to "stay in your lane." I write these comments, my articles, and my set of two books for any possible SPs out there who want to wake up. I'm an expressive learner, so I also write and speak for my own understanding.
I've heard that before too. What I write is not for you. Thanks again for posing as my literary foil. You cannot stop me from raising my awareness and consciousness, and you can't pull me back into the herd.
A low consciousness or a program is illogical, sheeple (conformist), and negative, but I won't waste my time proving these to you. If I did explain, you would be compelled to obstruct, divert, and frivolously argue each step of the way. I know you better than you know yourself.
Are you an evolution theory believer? C'mon, come out with it, be brave enough to stand up for your beLIEfs. Do you believe that America is great? Want to make it great again? Tell us, please. Don't anonymously hide behind your computer and this single issue.
Eric Dubay is a crossdressing pedo who has more than once pretzels himself into the freemasonic symbol for all the FE cultists to see , but it still doesn’t register with the brainwashed
He has refused to go to Antarctica when offered millions to film his ice wall ..🤡
No CGI photos are needed, nor any photo is relevant proof. It should be given to any of them - let them use their theory and mathematics of flat earth - to dig a tunnel or build a kilometer of road. They should also be left in the middle of the sea, so they can go straight, whatever the land is like for them. I think it's crazy and a waste of time, but you're right: these people will invent a bunch of theoretical fantasies, but practice... I repeat: in the middle of the sea, let them measure on meters, not on nautical miles - so let them go.... Unbelievable. Greetings, "secret agent" 009.
Speaking of CGI images, it would be so fun to see REAL photographs, and even videos of the spinning Earth ball from space. NASA or other "science experts" could so easily stop all speculations and theories about the shape of the Earth, end all debates, by just showing us curious people what the Earth looks like from outer space. They are sending up rockets, satellites and all kinds of stuff but so far never have we seen a video or REAL photos of the spinning ball. Surely that can't be a hard thing to do in our age of super space technology. Wouldn't you love to see a time-lapse video of the spinning ball? And I don't mean any CGI stuff, but true, real videos and real photos. If President Nixon could talk on a landline to the moon walkers, how hard is a video from space in 2025?
If you had basic understanding of basic physics you would not be asking retarded questions
Nixon didn’t talk to Apollo astronauts thru landline , hillbilly idiot
He used a radio using an s band transponder which transmitted voice and video over long distances, and vhf antennas for communication between the Lunar Module and astronauts , pretty sure you comprehended less than zero
Second of all idiot ,The entire moon landings and 6 moon missions were all tracked by half of the planet by radar and telemetry by hundreds of thousands of people. The moon landing site has been photographed by 5 different countries and they left retro reactor mirrors on the moon that are used to bounce high powered lasers off of, that is a fact maybe if you had some formal understanding of knowledge of what you're talking about then you wouldn't be saying such absurdly stupid nonsense. There are hundreds and hundreds of books written about every single pain staking detail of all of the moon landings and backed up by 77 space agencies around the world as well as far FAR superior intelligent and credible people then you could ever hope to be in 3 lifetimes. It's comical somebody that could not engineer a ham sandwich parroting some mindless nonsense they know nothing about like they are smart but could not pass a 3rd grade science test of their life depended on it. It's pathetic adults are of this level of stupidity in the age of information. You have access to more information and data then you could even review in your life yet you choose the highest form of ignorance and you display it proudly.. being a moron and a half wit use to be a source of shame now it's a badge of honor among people who watched 1 YouTube video and think they are read to step out of their double wide and win a Nobel prize. Bunch of ******** clowns.
Alright, it seems like the education (indoctrination)
Has made you easier to fool than the retarded hillbilly you throw insults at. Your pride has made you blind. If they did it in the 60’s why not now? Apollo supposedly did it with the fuel on board at liftoff, now they need another 16 or so spare fuel tanks. No blast craters under the landers. Who ran the camera on the lander return liftoff? I could go on but an
Arrogant ass like you doesn’t deserve my time . By the way over 130 IQ here. Didn’t take much to figure you out. All you have to do is take your math to determine curvature and got the beach with a buddy, camera gps, phone and a boat to prove you to be a shit slinging douche bag!
—-“By the way over 130 IQ here. Didn’t take much to figure you out. All you have to do is take your math to determine curvature and got the beach with a buddy, camera gps, phone and a boat to prove you to be a shit slinging douche bag!——“””
Seek lithium , your IQ may just be at negative 130
That was a lot of verbiage and a bunch of illiterate loghorea .
Must be those PSY OP FE websites that have convincing the uneducated clowns - of their “intellectual superiority” !
Funny how all of you toddlers who skipped basic math and physics have suddenly become gurus in aerospace engineering
You arrogance pride and lack of education is what makes you an evident laughable CLOWN , perhaps you refrain from commenting on subjects that require more than memes and tik tok videos to comprehend !
Lastly retard…. - harrier jets are far more powerful than the lunar lander and they don't go around making craters so there would not be any craters to be had on earth or moon !
Ohh those never ending childish “gotcha moments” from underdeveloped arrogant shrunken brains !
My word it’s true, you truly are a n insufferable bore. Have you ever come up with anything on your own, or do you just regurgitate other people’s theories? You insult anyone who takes a critical view of all the sides of a debate and comes to a conclusion different from your own. Name one positive contribution you and your alleged superiority over math has made. Has your personal knowledge of mathematics changed anyone’s life? What use is it if all you do is sit around in circle jerks with like-minded narcissists hurling insults at anyone who doesn’t buy your lies. You should zip up your pants, get out of your mom’s basement, use your physics theorems to produce benefits in someone’s life.
Ohh again more childish sad excuses and deflections to mask your lack of education and inbred arrogant stupidity !
You must know what “moms basement” looks like considering lacking basic skills would really dampen your chances of any productivity
This Coupled with complete desperation and pretzeling you idiots do to deny reality and show that you don't understand how anything works. The rest of the world laughs at your terrible attempts at debunking an established scientific fact
Even Sumerians knew the earth is a globe While 21st century retards educated by Psy op on you tube and tik tok began questing reality whilst knowing nothing about laws of physics . FE is a Humiliation ritual for the dumbest of the dumb
And not to mention that you flerfs still believe lying grifters who are only in it to make money off gullible and uneducated . None of FE grifters went to prove FE grift when paid for the chance to go, they all refused because they didn't want to lose their source of income
It’s not a “critical view of reality” that I argue against it’s a downright distorted and bastardized lies and ignorance that Flattards promote !
And it’s is always the same - Flat earthers proving how the decaying lowering of standards in the public educational system are wreaking havoc with the general population. The fact that overgrown idiots as adults don't know the shit that a fifth grader knew back in the seventies is truly appalling
So you can deflect all you like !
Facts are still facts regardless of your triggered feelings !
CGI virus occupied Earth few years ago. I don't believe that anyone fly to moon, or floating in space like Major Tom....I just said that photos are not evidence for almost nothing. Especially CGI..... About president Nixon and his phone talking with astronauts it is very good joke, just for Simpsons....And if you want to know something more about where that idea "flat Earth" came from, there is one chapter in Alan Baker's book "Invisible Eagle" (short and correct)....Also, if you are skiing, and when you go on the top of the mountains - nothing else I think I need to say: you see everything (I was in Austria last month and was on the top and I didn't saw Italy, even Italy is so close)....I salute you.
If you had basic understanding of basic physics you would not be asking retarded questions
Nixon didn’t talk to Apollo astronauts thru landline , hillbilly idiot
He used a radio using an s band transponder which transmitted voice and video over long distances, and vhf antennas for communication between the Lunar Module and astronauts , pretty sure you comprehended less than zero
Second of all idiot ,The entire moon landings and 6 moon missions were all tracked by half of the planet by radar and telemetry by hundreds of thousands of people. The moon landing site has been photographed by 5 different countries and they left retro reactor mirrors on the moon that are used to bounce high powered lasers off of, that is a fact maybe if you had some formal understanding of knowledge of what you're talking about then you wouldn't be saying such absurdly stupid nonsense. There are hundreds and hundreds of books written about every single pain staking detail of all of the moon landings and backed up by 77 space agencies around the world as well as far FAR superior intelligent and credible people then you could ever hope to be in 3 lifetimes. It's comical somebody that could not engineer a ham sandwich parroting some mindless nonsense they know nothing about like they are smart but could not pass a 3rd grade science test of their life depended on it. It's pathetic adults are of this level of stupidity in the age of information. You have access to more information and data then you could even review in your life yet you choose the highest form of ignorance and you display it proudly.. being a moron and a half wit use to be a source of shame now it's a badge of honor among people who watched 1 YouTube video and think they are read to step out of their double wide and win a Nobel prize. Bunch of ******** clowns.
You announced that the other side can't convince you, so does that mean you're stuck or programmed in your views? That's not a great position to take. Can you open your mind and advance past your conditioning? It's the same as asking, "Are you an unawake Source Player or an non-SP/NPC" or "Are you a target of the deception or part of the deception?" Whether one is a flat-Earther or spherical-Earther doesn't matter because they're both lies. Advanced Source Players don't want to convince non-SPs of anything. We want them to stay as they are. I didn't make up what I explain. The information is there if one can access it.
Einstein said, "Condemnation [denial, disbelief] without investigation is the height of ignorance." Pretending for a moment that Einstein was a real human in this real world, as a lower member of the hierarchy, he was let in on some occult information that the masses were not privy to and never will be. You see, the masses as well as truthers need to be deceived and given the Noble Lie.
So, Richard, who or what is going to save you from the accelerating chaos, control, and trouble? Jesus? Science and technology? Intergalactic intervention? Perhaps you don't see the coming SHTF, so no urgency? I ask you these because they're typical conditioned/programmed choices or beLIEfs. Go beyond the conspiracists' usual wrong answers, what is the ultimate reason for the deception and why are only SPs targeted?
Earth is an oblate spheroid. I think it’s likely men can get to lower Earth orbit. I think the Apollo missions probably didn’t get to the moon. My favorite evidence that some of the moon stuff is fake is when they show an astronaut putting a photograph of his fam on the surface of the moon. The temperature of the moon’s surface is high enough that the film layers will expand enough to make the photograph curl almost instantly. Needless to say, the photograph did not curl
It’s easily provable that Earth is spherical. There is no conclusive proof that men landed on the Moon however - and NASA didn’t help their case by losing all the original Apollo recordings and data. This post seems to be nothing more than an attempt to tar critical thinkers with the same brush as the flat earth idiots.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
Jean Baudrillard.
The first stage is a faithful image/copy, The second stage is perversion of reality, The third stage masks the absence of a profound reality, The fourth stage is pure simulacrum, in which the simulacrum has no relationship to any reality whatsoever. Simulacra and Simulation
Alright, it seems like the education (indoctrination)
Has made you easier to fool than the retarded hillbilly you throw insults at. Your pride has made you blind. If they did it in the 60’s why not now? Apollo supposedly did it with the fuel on board at liftoff, now they need another 16 or so spare fuel tanks. No blast craters under the landers. Who ran the camera on the lander return liftoff? I could go on but an
Arrogant ass like you doesn’t deserve my time . By the way over 130 IQ here. Didn’t take much to figure you out. All you have to do is take your math to determine curvature and got the beach with a buddy, camera gps, phone and a boat to prove you to be a shit slinging douche bag!
Probably the most damning evidence of what little actual evidence, and what little actual science the globe trotters have. It's nearly all fear mongering by way of name calling. Sad really.
To all the people that are denying the existence of geoengineering, cloud seeding and solar radiation management AKA chemtrails, I suggest you read this document from the U.S. air force website.
This document is from 1996 and is readily available for you to download, also from multiple other military and governmental websites.
Geoengineering has been going on for decades. It was used with great effect in the Vietnam war and also before that.
13 U.S. states, 3 European countries and multiple others around the world have recently put legislation in place to ban the use of high altitude aerosol injection over their territories.
Pray tell me how multiple governments around the world are banning something that you say doesn't exist. I'll wait....
The title of the article was were the stupidity began tho .. without even reading the article... Explain what you mean by "rational man" . Because you said "Flat Earth is a CIA psychological operation"... So the CIA came before Flat Earth theory?
If I cared, I could've predicted you would increase the aggression, and, as I mentioned in my comment that you reposted, you accuse flat-Earthers of being militant, yet you beat them by a longshot. That's intentional, by your own admission, to stir the pot and generate more interest, readers, and subscribers.
You cleverly write about lower-consciousness subjects to generate reactions, and it works. No judgment on that, and it's obvious that I'm also weighing in on the popular controversy and contributing to your Substack. But my writing is not that style. My Substack will never be as popular as yours, and I don't care. Mine is for those wanting to reach higher consciousness, which is foreign to you. You conservatively follow "alternative" groupthink and consensus. However, thank you for helping to kickstart my Substack.
I'm for finding the truth, no matter what kind of condemnation I get from the mainstream science-conditioned masses. You accuse flat-Earthers of being subjected to psyops/mind-control, yet you clearly show you are as well. Lifelong conditioning and CIA psyops are the same thing. One is long-term and the other is one of many special applications run by subordinate groups, but the methods and goal are the same.
Are you familiar with the current, hidden, and great impact of the British Royal Society? It was a large and far-reaching "psyops" run by famous occult masters to promote scientism. It was, of course, secretly endorsed by the High Priests of the continuing Roman Empire.
You say you're a truther, but you easily fall for the most obvious deception. That's why I say you're a semi-truther or pseudo-conspiracist. All of them are addicted to fear and most are going nowhere. Are you beLIEf-bound (programmed) to evolution theory? If so, that's another "psyops" you're sucked into. But I encourage you to stay that way. My guess is you can't wake up, and you'll give SPs as much trouble as you can (energy extraction used to run this Game) if you happen to encounter any of us. You see, your toxic follow-up diatribe is directed at me only, unless there are other awake or unawake SPs reading your Substack. The majority non-SPs don't perceive anything. They're part of the presentation.
I know a lot more than you about the Darwin family and the con-jobs of their superiors. How do I know that I know more than you? Your writing advertises this. Do you know the Freemasonic metaphor the Elite push regarding evolution theory? Do you know the hidden meaning of the word, "con?" Do you know the Lunar Society and what Charles' grandfather Erasmus Darwin wrote? Some truther you are. Do you know what Charles Darwin himself said about the durability of his theory, how it will surely later be proven or disproven? And by what criteria or evidence did he mean?
You could say I specialize in evolution theory. I'm far better at refuting it than the most famous religious scholars are. And vice-versa, I'm better at debunking religions (god-creation) than well-known atheists. Popular debates between, say, Christopher Hitchens and John Lennox or Dinesh D'Souza are superficial. But what do you expect from the mass media? And New Age beLIEfs? I salivate at the thought of tearing into them.
Your own cherished conspiracies are part of the Cabal's and Matrix's psyops, so you're an unwitting patsy. Evidence of your ignorance and conditioned mind is not having the slightest idea and refusing to even briefly consider what I plainly and repeatedly explained in comments under your previous article, the one that triggered so many reactions.
When I say, "I'm for finding the truth," I mean the ultimate truth (the highest awareness and consciousness type), but my own, as an advancing Source Player. This experience is only what I found it to be, because it's illusionary and I'm playing it alone. I already explained several of these critical concepts of this illusionary Matrix Game in previous comments.
Other SPs are challenged in the same way. This is all very strange to you, I know. And you're right to quickly dismiss it. It doesn't apply to you, and you can't participate in it. I explained as clearly as I can. It took me many years and a lot of work to understand and put the conceptual pieces of the puzzle together. Yet, it's elegantly simple and super-rewarding.
You remarked, "...whatever that means," so you must be totally lost with this. Your role dictates this. Your programming makes you reject it. Unawake SPs' scripts and conditioning make them reject it too, hopefully only temporarily, so there could be a few of them in your like-minded group as well as in the other group, flat Earth. But these are generally fictional groups filled with fictional "humans," and SPs are the only ones perceiving, having a consciousness, and playing this Game.
TLDR … and you’re welcome for the exposure. We’re all in this together.… Just want to quote your genius consciousness blah blah blah: “The Earth is neither round nor flat”
For those who actually believe you can sit on the fence about the shape of the Earth. Next we will be debating about whether there is oxygen or not.
He, who makes the claim bares the burden of proof.
Please provide irrefutable evidence we live on a ball.
FLAT EARTH PSY OP AND THE PLAGUE OF UNEDUCATED SHEEPTARDS THAT FOLLOW IT
For over 20 years now since the CIA first released the Flat Earth Psyop as an experiment to see just how absurd and idiotic the information they put out into the public domain could get and still have people believing it, the number of gullible minds being sucked into the Psyop has been growing by leaps and bounds. The CIA needed internet "Influencers" to spread the Psyop, and they gained those with Flat Earth gurus like Eric Dubay, Flat Earth Dave, and a number of others. At first, it was just individuals joining the Flat Earth Cult, but now a shift is taking place---Right Wing channel owners have begun pushing the Psyop to their large audiences. Who are those Right Wing channel owners? The channels pushing the Flat Earth Psyop--thereby greatly HELPING the Deep State to degrade human minds and dumb them downeven more-- are ALL owned by Fundamentalists. THE CUNNING PSYCHOLOGICAL PLOY THEY USE ON THE GULLIBLE MINDS Fundamentalists already say they believe everything in the Bible, so when any speaker mentions the Bible, or God, or Jesus, it DISARMS the mind of the Fundamentalists right off the bat. They are thereafter MORE likely to believe whatever the speaker then preaches, because they believe he is credible, as a Christian man. This is a very cunning ploy, and has been used by many unscrupulous grifters and channel owners to sell products to their Fundamentalist audiences. The religious listener thinks, "Well, they are Christians, so they must be honest." WRONG!!! Don't be fooled. They use that ploy to take advantage of you and line their own pockets. FACELESS SEAN OF THE SGT REPORT The Fundamentalist channel owner with the largest following in Truther World these days is likely Faceless Sean of the SGT Report. He pumps out show after show after show, typically advertising products or people he promotes (and likely receives commissions from) and now he is promoting several people that preach Flat Earth Dogma. PSYCHOLOGICAL TRICKS TO CONTROL FUNDAMENTALIST MINDS Faceless Sean recently featured a guest named "Crow" (also faceless), who claimed that the Sun is only 32 miles in diameter and only a little over 3,000 miles from Earth, which he insists is flat. That's interesting, because we have seen many posts by Flat Earth devotees who have been saying the Sun is only "about 30 miles up." So now this Crow is saying it is some 3300 miles up. Remember they still have to fit the Sun, Moon, and all the stars and planets INSIDE their Dome of the Firmament. So, how do they get gullible Fundamentalists who know virtually nothing of real science, to believe their lies? They use Hitler's favorite method. Hitler is famous for saying that if you tell a lie big enough and repeat it often enough people will believe it. That is exactly what the Flat Earth gurus do, and now that includes Faceless Sean of the SGT Report. TAKING ADVANTAGE OF SINCERE BUT GULLIBLE MINDS Everyone knows that Fundamentalists are the easiest people in the Western World to fool. As long as you convince them something is in the Bible (whether it really is or not) they will believe it. They will not only believe it, but then spread it and expect everyone else to believe it. FLAT EARTH IS NOW A RELIGIOUS DOGMA TO MANY It has progressed to the point, that now, Flat Earth has become an actual religious dogma in the minds of many Fundamentalists. And, clever propagandists like Faceless Sean are trying to spread it as widely as they can. COGNITIVE DISSONANCE RULES THEIR MINDS Despite the fact that science experts have debated Flat Earthers and been able to totally debunk their silly assertions, the Flat Earth Cult devotees absolutely refuse to admit they have been debunked, and due to cognitive dissonance, continue believing the lies of Flat Earth. LYING DUSTIN NEMOS DEBATES A SCIENCE EXPERT ON FLAT EARTH On a recent show on Nino's Corner, Nino Rodriguez hosted a science expert and Dustin Nemos, a Flat Earth Fundamentalist. The science expert totally debunked EVERY supposed proof of Flat Earth Nemos could throw out, making Nemos look like a total fool, yet because Nemos talked Bible in a religious tone, he likely disarmed the minds of most of Nino's audience, and they still believed Nemos' lies instead of hard science that easily debunked them. THE END RESULT OF ALL THIS IS NOT GOOD The effect all this is having is that already muddled minds are being muddled even further by the idiocy of Flat Earth, now being pushed by major Right Wing channel owners. Who are these people really working for?
If your own mind has been smashed into oblivion by the Flat Earth Psyop and you've lost all ability to think and reason logically and rationally your programming is complete
FE minions who are you following ? Cross dressing pedo FE Guru E . Dubay ?
Faceless Sean on SGT ?
Faceless Sean ignored Operation Warpspeed and Donald J. Trumps complicity in the D.O.D. rollout of the DARPA graphene oxide self assembling nanotech injections forced under the false name of 'vaccine'. Faceless Sean has ignored the glaring anomalies and ridiculous theatrics of the FAKE shooting of Trump on July 13th, insisting that GOD saved Trump from a fatal shot my millimeters and a split second, rather than a WWE level staged performance with fake blood and theatrics that defied any and all potential realities. Regardless of it all, Sean of SGT pumps Golden Don as his savior.
And the retarded follow these obvious con man cia Psy op peddlers whose only role is humiliating the masses with their obvious govt antics while milking you for $ 🐑💩
Yes, I'm thankful for the exposure. A little more of this and I might be able to write a Part 3 on my Substack. Then after that, I already have a deeper explanation of the illusionary Matrix Game ready to post.
We're not all in this together.
Snarky reply. You're playing your part well. True, I'm way above your level of understanding, but I wouldn't call it "genius" in the conventional sense. The mind is not the brain, and consciousness cannot be measured by worldly methods. We both know that you can only resort to cheap shots and can't engage in an intelligent discussion.
You want me to pick a side in a low-consciousness and useless debate on two illogical lies? Do you not understand simulation hypothesis at all? If you had any inkling, you would know that I'm not undecided or in between the two sides, which is what "sitting on the fence" means. I thoroughly explained my position versus flat Earth and spherical Earth.
Oxygen is physical as well. Ponder that.
Cuckoo 😛
Check out this post on my Substack: "Part 1: These Articles and Videos Could Help You Deal with the Current Accelerating Troubles and Get You Started on Consciousness-Raising." Choose 2. It's an excellent video on how the program is mind-controlling you and how you can break free from it. If you can't relate to it and feel there's nothing to break free of, then you're probably an NPC. In that case, just carry on as usual.
When you resort to cheap shots and negativity, you ruin your brand. You may not see it that way, since you've generated a lot of discussion from your last two articles (short-term gains). I'm not a marketing expert, I don't care about the public, and my writing automatically alienates some people, especially the beLIEf-bound. You will probably reply that you've been doing this a long time and you know what works. Fine. But I wouldn't resort to trash-writing and intentionally alienating groups of people. I had to soften my approach in a few places in my two upcoming books on advice from my Russian publisher. She's so smart, talented, and professional. And I sure as hell need the guidance.
My assessment and warning might be off for another reason--the prevailing current state of instant, anonymous, and negative online communication. You must be a younger person who's in-tune with that style.
There's also the degradation of insightful communication and intellectual thought on your Substack. These could be detrimental in the long run. I for sure couldn't justify being one of your paid subscribers. Or maybe I'm wrong and you could see a surge of subscribers. However, I wouldn't want to attract those kinds of commenters and discussions. Far be it for me to moralize though. I reject morals and duality like good-bad and right-wrong.
It seems our back-and-forth is finished, and on a good note. I consider it a compliment to be called crazy or "cuckoo." When a group-, consensus-, and system-follower calls me crazy, I can more easily identify what they're about and it helps to cut through any maneuvering or trickiness. It's further evidence that I'm on the right track. The sooner they call me that, the better, so that I don't waste my time.
Toward the end of my first book of my upcoming two-book set, I have a transcription of a long dialog I had with a Canadian conspiracy site editor. You might like to see that. The books should be out in 1-1/2 to 2 months on Amazon and other outlets. They'll be available in e-book (Kindle), paperback, and hardback. They are large--more than 1,700 pages total if they were in standard trim size and more than 500 pages each in 8.5" x 11" trim size. The Kindle version will be by far the cheapest option, since I think I'll be going with the expensive color illustrations in the paperback and hardback editions.
Please, if you can answer my question: do you accept Einstein's theory of relativity? I see you mention Darwin, and well, Einstein's "genius" is not very far from Darwin's.... Also, I must note that here, too, there are people like you: conscious, awakened and main experts who know everything, while we material and poor peasants remain at a lower level of consciousness. Forgive me, I am from the small country of Croatia, it doesn't matter that our ancestors are the oldest inhabitants of this part of the world, but what can you do - a peasant remains a peasant.
I will just ask for the thousandth time: one material, concrete proof of what you claim - just one, please (it would be great if the proof was related to a flat Earth, and not some other thing).
"Secret agent" 009 is great to me and I learned a lot from him. Maybe read his life, he took the trouble to show us his life here and what he bases his position on - and for all that, I appreciate him even more. I don't see why you're arguing without arguments...because, I know that you all, the awakened ones, are very good at using words.
You won't like this reply. I don't comply with lower-consciousness and asleep human requests. I have none of the motives you say I do. I don't speak for or side with flat-Earthers. You're twisting my meaning and trying to drag me down to your level, whether you realize it or not. But that's what you're supposed to do, challenge me.
It's almost like you're saying, "How dare you challenge the geniuses of science and their noble principles." Darwin and his family were sneaky secret society member NPCs (not real) running a con-job. I have 1-1/2 chapters of evolution theory analysis in my second book. History, civilization, the collective/humanity, and "ancestors" are illusionary. Are you a "conspiracy-lite" like 009?
Me and my practice are outside of physical, scientific, and civilization references and considerations. I don't put credence in locations, history, and famous NPCs. They're all deceptive illusions to me. You might be part of those presentations to Source Players (SPs).
Regarding "arguing without arguments," almost everyone on both sides of this issue (you're all the same to me, with a few exceptions) wants discussion confined to familiar mental territory to avoid cognitive dissonance. What I present is unsettling and erodes what little control you subconsciously thought you had. But you don't seem to love this control as much as others like 009.
Almost all of you on both sides want the discussion to stay within the confines of the mass-conditioning/"psyops." You won't and can't follow what I explain anyway. If you truly, open-mindedly want "proof" and want to understand, then study my material and the others I recommend. I have six favorite researchers who can get you started.
If you think I'm just "good at using words" and not supplying one shred of proof, then you're hopeless and not an SP. I've shared more than enough in my lengthy comments after 009's two articles on this subject. Enough to get unawake SPs started on the journey that they're "here" for.
Why should I play yours, 009's, and the other sheeples' game by supplying "concrete proof" when this experience is not concrete, all education and authoritative/official information are deceptive, and the Matrix can present illusionary "evidence" to trick both sides? I find it funny that those who call themselves truthers completely miss these critical concepts. Like the public, they play their roles and can't break out of their slightly different conditioning. They have no solutions to the accelerating chaos, control, and trouble. It's okay that they "stay in their lane" and never understand what this experience is about, because it's not for them. But it's tragic that unawake SPs never break out of self-deception.
I don't think you can do anything useful with the information, but if you're bored and have nothing to do, check out my Substack for more shocking information that turns everything upside-down. Viktorlhde.substack.com.
My two upcoming books will be released as a series called "Source Truth." They each have their own subtitles, and they are "Part I: This Illusionary Matrix Game and Challenging Beliefs" and "Part II: New World Order, Plandemic, and Cabal." The conspiracies I deal with in "Part II" are from a highly awareness- and consciousness-raised perspective.
Bunch of new age drivel
You failed physics
And you can’t comprehend math
Two illogical lies?
Or just an excuse for miserably failing STEM -
So much easier to dwell in nothingness while knowing nothing
And yet he has not provided a single amount of evidence we exist on a spinning ball.
Well written.
“Returning to Viktor Bron’s articles, his knickers are in such a wad, he’s going to need surgery to straighten them out”
Sounds exactly correct
Uneducated chimpanzees
For those interested, check out the video done by Eric Dubay "200 Proofs the Earth is Not a Spinning Ball": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0EGB_o9TZM
Eric Dubay is the man "The World Is Not Enough" claims is a CIA agent (with no proof). Many other very intelligent people are questioning the globe model which is nothing new.
There are exactly 0 intelligent people questioning the shape of the Earth
And even fewer people who argue with them
Intelligence is a factor, but it's more important who's questioning. And when I say "questioning," I mean either way, flat or spherical. Your idea of those "questioning" are the ones "wrongly" going against mainstream conditioning. Why attack those going against mass-brainwashing? Is it your program to keep them in-line with the herd? Are you a bird who lived all your life in a cage and think flying is crazy? Unawake SPs who at first believe in flat Earth could be starting their journey. It's laughable that you bad-mouth their efforts. But it's not out of the ordinary. Non-SPs are supposed to do all they can to create doubt in SPs' minds and extract our energy
Do you think you're able to question your lifelong conditioning or deprogram from all the lies you were told since you were born? Why do you care what others think? Awareness and consciousness raising are worked on internally. It's not a group project and others' thinking and questioning are none of your business.
There may be some intelligent and unawake ones using this issue to possibly wake up. They usually start out siding with flat Earth because, like conspiracies, it's an alternative direction. They seek unconventional concepts like certain philosophies, sovereign citizen, alternative medicine, conspiracies, esoterica, New Age, and possibly simulation hypothesis. They don't go over the deep end on them though. They don't seek these out just because these pursuits are cool and make the seekers look progressive or counterculture. They're genuinely curious and want to wake up.
NPCs usually stick with conventional conspiracies unless they're playing the role of a rebel doing whatever it takes to fight the system and having no care what the consequences are. Why would they care? They're not real.
Omg Viktor the earth is a sphere get over it …. There’s nothing radical, revolutionary or philosophical about debating over the shape of the Earth. It’s just plain retarded nonsense.
Your right, there's no sense debating over the shape of the Earth, so why do you debate it? You forcefully push the position opposite the other side, which is debating. I don't debate it because it has no shape or physicality.
You want me to lower myself to your stuck and conditioned position? I'm for progressing, not regressing. Did you understand anything I wrote, or are you just reflexively sticking to your guns? It's so typical, and I've seen it thousands of times. Can you open your mind? I don't think so. But that's ok. You're doing your job. By your own admission, you don't know what I'm talking about.
I understand your skepticism or unwillingness to consider for even a minute what I say. Explanations of my practice and who I am are strange and they stand all conventions on their heads. As I said in different words before, I want you to "stay in your lane." I write these comments, my articles, and my set of two books for any possible SPs out there who want to wake up. I'm an expressive learner, so I also write and speak for my own understanding.
Sky is blue fish swim birds fly and the Earth is not flat get over it.
I've heard that before too. What I write is not for you. Thanks again for posing as my literary foil. You cannot stop me from raising my awareness and consciousness, and you can't pull me back into the herd.
A low consciousness or a program is illogical, sheeple (conformist), and negative, but I won't waste my time proving these to you. If I did explain, you would be compelled to obstruct, divert, and frivolously argue each step of the way. I know you better than you know yourself.
Are you an evolution theory believer? C'mon, come out with it, be brave enough to stand up for your beLIEfs. Do you believe that America is great? Want to make it great again? Tell us, please. Don't anonymously hide behind your computer and this single issue.
Weak, all you have is your beliefs.
He who makes a claim, bares the burden of proof.
Please provide irrefutable proof we live on a spinning ball.
Thanks.
Donna - are you trying to be this stupid?
Eric Dubay is a crossdressing pedo who has more than once pretzels himself into the freemasonic symbol for all the FE cultists to see , but it still doesn’t register with the brainwashed
He has refused to go to Antarctica when offered millions to film his ice wall ..🤡
You must be really soft in the noggin !
As he makes millions milking uneducated idiots
Should be called "200 non-sequitur fallacies the earth is not a spinning ball."
I am sorry you are just too dumb to do 4 th grade experiments for yourself to prove undeniably that earth is Not flat
No CGI photos are needed, nor any photo is relevant proof. It should be given to any of them - let them use their theory and mathematics of flat earth - to dig a tunnel or build a kilometer of road. They should also be left in the middle of the sea, so they can go straight, whatever the land is like for them. I think it's crazy and a waste of time, but you're right: these people will invent a bunch of theoretical fantasies, but practice... I repeat: in the middle of the sea, let them measure on meters, not on nautical miles - so let them go.... Unbelievable. Greetings, "secret agent" 009.
Speaking of CGI images, it would be so fun to see REAL photographs, and even videos of the spinning Earth ball from space. NASA or other "science experts" could so easily stop all speculations and theories about the shape of the Earth, end all debates, by just showing us curious people what the Earth looks like from outer space. They are sending up rockets, satellites and all kinds of stuff but so far never have we seen a video or REAL photos of the spinning ball. Surely that can't be a hard thing to do in our age of super space technology. Wouldn't you love to see a time-lapse video of the spinning ball? And I don't mean any CGI stuff, but true, real videos and real photos. If President Nixon could talk on a landline to the moon walkers, how hard is a video from space in 2025?
First of all FE is for retards
If you had basic understanding of basic physics you would not be asking retarded questions
Nixon didn’t talk to Apollo astronauts thru landline , hillbilly idiot
He used a radio using an s band transponder which transmitted voice and video over long distances, and vhf antennas for communication between the Lunar Module and astronauts , pretty sure you comprehended less than zero
Second of all idiot ,The entire moon landings and 6 moon missions were all tracked by half of the planet by radar and telemetry by hundreds of thousands of people. The moon landing site has been photographed by 5 different countries and they left retro reactor mirrors on the moon that are used to bounce high powered lasers off of, that is a fact maybe if you had some formal understanding of knowledge of what you're talking about then you wouldn't be saying such absurdly stupid nonsense. There are hundreds and hundreds of books written about every single pain staking detail of all of the moon landings and backed up by 77 space agencies around the world as well as far FAR superior intelligent and credible people then you could ever hope to be in 3 lifetimes. It's comical somebody that could not engineer a ham sandwich parroting some mindless nonsense they know nothing about like they are smart but could not pass a 3rd grade science test of their life depended on it. It's pathetic adults are of this level of stupidity in the age of information. You have access to more information and data then you could even review in your life yet you choose the highest form of ignorance and you display it proudly.. being a moron and a half wit use to be a source of shame now it's a badge of honor among people who watched 1 YouTube video and think they are read to step out of their double wide and win a Nobel prize. Bunch of ******** clowns.
Alright, it seems like the education (indoctrination)
Has made you easier to fool than the retarded hillbilly you throw insults at. Your pride has made you blind. If they did it in the 60’s why not now? Apollo supposedly did it with the fuel on board at liftoff, now they need another 16 or so spare fuel tanks. No blast craters under the landers. Who ran the camera on the lander return liftoff? I could go on but an
Arrogant ass like you doesn’t deserve my time . By the way over 130 IQ here. Didn’t take much to figure you out. All you have to do is take your math to determine curvature and got the beach with a buddy, camera gps, phone and a boat to prove you to be a shit slinging douche bag!
—-“By the way over 130 IQ here. Didn’t take much to figure you out. All you have to do is take your math to determine curvature and got the beach with a buddy, camera gps, phone and a boat to prove you to be a shit slinging douche bag!——“””
Seek lithium , your IQ may just be at negative 130
That was a lot of verbiage and a bunch of illiterate loghorea .
Must be those PSY OP FE websites that have convincing the uneducated clowns - of their “intellectual superiority” !
Funny how all of you toddlers who skipped basic math and physics have suddenly become gurus in aerospace engineering
You arrogance pride and lack of education is what makes you an evident laughable CLOWN , perhaps you refrain from commenting on subjects that require more than memes and tik tok videos to comprehend !
Lastly retard…. - harrier jets are far more powerful than the lunar lander and they don't go around making craters so there would not be any craters to be had on earth or moon !
Ohh those never ending childish “gotcha moments” from underdeveloped arrogant shrunken brains !
130 Eye Q 🤣🤣
My word it’s true, you truly are a n insufferable bore. Have you ever come up with anything on your own, or do you just regurgitate other people’s theories? You insult anyone who takes a critical view of all the sides of a debate and comes to a conclusion different from your own. Name one positive contribution you and your alleged superiority over math has made. Has your personal knowledge of mathematics changed anyone’s life? What use is it if all you do is sit around in circle jerks with like-minded narcissists hurling insults at anyone who doesn’t buy your lies. You should zip up your pants, get out of your mom’s basement, use your physics theorems to produce benefits in someone’s life.
Ohh again more childish sad excuses and deflections to mask your lack of education and inbred arrogant stupidity !
You must know what “moms basement” looks like considering lacking basic skills would really dampen your chances of any productivity
This Coupled with complete desperation and pretzeling you idiots do to deny reality and show that you don't understand how anything works. The rest of the world laughs at your terrible attempts at debunking an established scientific fact
Even Sumerians knew the earth is a globe While 21st century retards educated by Psy op on you tube and tik tok began questing reality whilst knowing nothing about laws of physics . FE is a Humiliation ritual for the dumbest of the dumb
And not to mention that you flerfs still believe lying grifters who are only in it to make money off gullible and uneducated . None of FE grifters went to prove FE grift when paid for the chance to go, they all refused because they didn't want to lose their source of income
It’s not a “critical view of reality” that I argue against it’s a downright distorted and bastardized lies and ignorance that Flattards promote !
And it’s is always the same - Flat earthers proving how the decaying lowering of standards in the public educational system are wreaking havoc with the general population. The fact that overgrown idiots as adults don't know the shit that a fifth grader knew back in the seventies is truly appalling
So you can deflect all you like !
Facts are still facts regardless of your triggered feelings !
CGI virus occupied Earth few years ago. I don't believe that anyone fly to moon, or floating in space like Major Tom....I just said that photos are not evidence for almost nothing. Especially CGI..... About president Nixon and his phone talking with astronauts it is very good joke, just for Simpsons....And if you want to know something more about where that idea "flat Earth" came from, there is one chapter in Alan Baker's book "Invisible Eagle" (short and correct)....Also, if you are skiing, and when you go on the top of the mountains - nothing else I think I need to say: you see everything (I was in Austria last month and was on the top and I didn't saw Italy, even Italy is so close)....I salute you.
Can’t muster any grammar ? Moron?
First of all FE is for retards
If you had basic understanding of basic physics you would not be asking retarded questions
Nixon didn’t talk to Apollo astronauts thru landline , hillbilly idiot
He used a radio using an s band transponder which transmitted voice and video over long distances, and vhf antennas for communication between the Lunar Module and astronauts , pretty sure you comprehended less than zero
Second of all idiot ,The entire moon landings and 6 moon missions were all tracked by half of the planet by radar and telemetry by hundreds of thousands of people. The moon landing site has been photographed by 5 different countries and they left retro reactor mirrors on the moon that are used to bounce high powered lasers off of, that is a fact maybe if you had some formal understanding of knowledge of what you're talking about then you wouldn't be saying such absurdly stupid nonsense. There are hundreds and hundreds of books written about every single pain staking detail of all of the moon landings and backed up by 77 space agencies around the world as well as far FAR superior intelligent and credible people then you could ever hope to be in 3 lifetimes. It's comical somebody that could not engineer a ham sandwich parroting some mindless nonsense they know nothing about like they are smart but could not pass a 3rd grade science test of their life depended on it. It's pathetic adults are of this level of stupidity in the age of information. You have access to more information and data then you could even review in your life yet you choose the highest form of ignorance and you display it proudly.. being a moron and a half wit use to be a source of shame now it's a badge of honor among people who watched 1 YouTube video and think they are read to step out of their double wide and win a Nobel prize. Bunch of ******** clowns.
Now here's one for you to prove, is this lemming in a nasa photo of Mars real or is it cgi.
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA16204.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/OOLb0Qg.jpeg
good try though
https://medium.com/predict/distinguishing-cgi-from-reality-is-probably-impossible-101b5ac80c46
It's not impossible at all.
You can load all the photos in there you want see what happens
https://www.fakeimagedetector.com/
Here's some ai ones
https://civitai.com/images
You use your own real ones.
I just posted an obvious CGI photo on my wall and your "CGI detector" says it is "no error level detected"
Then share the link to the photo as proof.
Doesn’t seem to be any way to share a link
What's the name of the art?
You are taking a photo of a cgi piece on your wall so I'm not sure if that would work.
The site itself says it only works at 60-70% accuracy but it seems to be spot on with everything I've thrown at it.
Seems like you have not a ball earth derangement syndrome.
Lol.
You will never convince me we live in fake space. Ever.
You mate are useless and thankfully technology and modern conviniences we enjoy do not depend on ignoranuses like you to run them
You announced that the other side can't convince you, so does that mean you're stuck or programmed in your views? That's not a great position to take. Can you open your mind and advance past your conditioning? It's the same as asking, "Are you an unawake Source Player or an non-SP/NPC" or "Are you a target of the deception or part of the deception?" Whether one is a flat-Earther or spherical-Earther doesn't matter because they're both lies. Advanced Source Players don't want to convince non-SPs of anything. We want them to stay as they are. I didn't make up what I explain. The information is there if one can access it.
Einstein said, "Condemnation [denial, disbelief] without investigation is the height of ignorance." Pretending for a moment that Einstein was a real human in this real world, as a lower member of the hierarchy, he was let in on some occult information that the masses were not privy to and never will be. You see, the masses as well as truthers need to be deceived and given the Noble Lie.
So, Richard, who or what is going to save you from the accelerating chaos, control, and trouble? Jesus? Science and technology? Intergalactic intervention? Perhaps you don't see the coming SHTF, so no urgency? I ask you these because they're typical conditioned/programmed choices or beLIEfs. Go beyond the conspiracists' usual wrong answers, what is the ultimate reason for the deception and why are only SPs targeted?
https://i.imgur.com/rSkXfuy.jpeg
Earth is an oblate spheroid. I think it’s likely men can get to lower Earth orbit. I think the Apollo missions probably didn’t get to the moon. My favorite evidence that some of the moon stuff is fake is when they show an astronaut putting a photograph of his fam on the surface of the moon. The temperature of the moon’s surface is high enough that the film layers will expand enough to make the photograph curl almost instantly. Needless to say, the photograph did not curl
It’s easily provable that Earth is spherical. There is no conclusive proof that men landed on the Moon however - and NASA didn’t help their case by losing all the original Apollo recordings and data. This post seems to be nothing more than an attempt to tar critical thinkers with the same brush as the flat earth idiots.
You know flat earth is true because the round spinning ball is what the government tells you. Space is fake, glo e earth is fake, dinosaurs are fake.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities
Jean Baudrillard.
The first stage is a faithful image/copy, The second stage is perversion of reality, The third stage masks the absence of a profound reality, The fourth stage is pure simulacrum, in which the simulacrum has no relationship to any reality whatsoever. Simulacra and Simulation
https://youtu.be/JsETzrRr3is?si=tPjwUPxC_e1RyykN
I think you will find this interesting, 009
Alright, it seems like the education (indoctrination)
Has made you easier to fool than the retarded hillbilly you throw insults at. Your pride has made you blind. If they did it in the 60’s why not now? Apollo supposedly did it with the fuel on board at liftoff, now they need another 16 or so spare fuel tanks. No blast craters under the landers. Who ran the camera on the lander return liftoff? I could go on but an
Arrogant ass like you doesn’t deserve my time . By the way over 130 IQ here. Didn’t take much to figure you out. All you have to do is take your math to determine curvature and got the beach with a buddy, camera gps, phone and a boat to prove you to be a shit slinging douche bag!
Probably the most damning evidence of what little actual evidence, and what little actual science the globe trotters have. It's nearly all fear mongering by way of name calling. Sad really.
To all the people that are denying the existence of geoengineering, cloud seeding and solar radiation management AKA chemtrails, I suggest you read this document from the U.S. air force website.
This document is from 1996 and is readily available for you to download, also from multiple other military and governmental websites.
Geoengineering has been going on for decades. It was used with great effect in the Vietnam war and also before that.
13 U.S. states, 3 European countries and multiple others around the world have recently put legislation in place to ban the use of high altitude aerosol injection over their territories.
Pray tell me how multiple governments around the world are banning something that you say doesn't exist. I'll wait....
https://ia601605.us.archive.org/35/items/WeatherAsAForceMultiplier/WeatherAsAForceMultiplier.pdf
The title of the article was were the stupidity began tho .. without even reading the article... Explain what you mean by "rational man" . Because you said "Flat Earth is a CIA psychological operation"... So the CIA came before Flat Earth theory?